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KJ ([personal profile] owlmoose) wrote2006-05-30 06:56 pm
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Even though all of you who care have moved on from this by now....

I finally got around to watching "Advent Children" today. Never mind that it's been in the house for several weeks, and that the library copy came several days before that. (Yep, I talked my boss into ordering "Advent Children" for the library. It's an art school, we have programs in animation and game design, it was a natural fit. I had to convince her that it was something different from "The Spirits Within", but after that it was an easy sell. Why yes, I do love my job. Anyway.)

I was entertained. Very pretty, excellent animation, gorgeous fight sequences. The plot was basically nonsensical and spent way too much time on Cloud for my tastes, but I expected that. Okay, so he is the star, but there could have been a tad more balance, yes? However, hints of canon Cloud/Tifa certainly make me happy.

I enjoyed many of the fight scenes but the big group battle with the summon (was that meant to be Bahamut? I'm not familiar enough with FFVII to be sure) was the best, closely followed by Tifa's fight with Loz -- that felt the most like a game battle, but in a good way. Complete with a victory fanfare at the end! (Which completely cracked me up. Is that wrong? And is it wrong that I totally want that ringtone now?) I also enjoyed Cloud's motorcycle as sword carrier, and of course that final move on Sephiroth was a classic.

Bringing back Sephiroth was well done (I never got used to hearing Nooj's voice coming out of his mouth, though) -- the moment when he morphs back into Kadaj might have been the most visually appealing scene in the whole movie, which is saying something. "I'll never be just a memory"-- brr.

The whole Aeris-as-mother-goddess thing was a little heavy-handed, but appropriate to both the story and her character arc. Seeing her walk into the metaphorical sunset with Zack, restored to Cloud as a bittersweet but no longer crushing memory really worked for me as an ending, and under-credits scene aside I prefer to think of it as truly ending that way.

Did enjoy the scenes with Rufus Shinra and the Turks. I understand why Reno and Rude have become such fan favorites. I will never argue with some good snarky ass-kicking. Rufus hiding the MacGuffin -- I mean, "Jenova" -- in plain sight was excellent, even if not completely well-thought out at the end.

It was worth watching. I'll probably check some of the special features -- any of them particularly worth watching? -- and I expect T will want to watch it at some point. He'll ask for the subtitles, so that will make for an interesting comparison.

[identity profile] yuna-flowering.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
George Newbern does the voice for Sephiroth? I can see how that would be odd... I still think they should make a movie (a real movie) out of FFX. Think about it- Besaid would be a Caribbean beach somewhere, Zanarkand would be all digital like Corsucant in Star Wars... my older brother keeps trying to insist that Nicole Kidman should play Lulu, but I think she's a bit old to be playing a 21-22 year old...

[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
George Newbern does the voice for Sephiroth?

Yes. Also in Kingdom Hearts II, where it is also somewhat jarring. ;)

a real movie) out of FFX

I can see that, but I also think it would be bizarre to have all the characters voices be wrong. And they'd have to cut out *a lot* to get it down to movie length. Still, interesting thought.

[identity profile] parron.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Loz's ringtone cracked me up, too. It still remains my favorite part of the movie (although the fight with Bahamut? Yeah, that was pretty awesome. Go, team!). XD The Nooj-Sephiroth thing kinda bugs me, it's jarring. Of course, I didn't blink at the Gippal-Zack thing, so maybe this is just a matter of preference... The Aerith stuff was heavy handed, but mostly fitting. And she totally redeemed herself with her "'boo-hoo, poor little me'" line. :P

From here on it's pointless:


The special features--the "reminescense of FF7" thing is long, but a good refresher on the game (and fun to watch after all the gorgeousness; remember when Cloud's arms were dumbells!?). The bonus disk itself had a long, fairly dull interview with the creaters (seriously. dull.), some trailers for other FF7 spinoffs... there's also a less polished movie of the movie on it, from an earlier release? There were also some early trailers for Advent Children, which I liked--that first one? XD Can you just imagine being in that audience of that game thing and all of a sudden seeing CLOUD walking pretty? Then again, I'm a sucker for trailers. :P

[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, see, the Gippal-Zack *totally* made me blink, but I think it was more unexpected, since we only hear Zack's voice a couple of times and once we can't see who's speaking. "Wait, what's Gippal doing in the afterlife with Aeris?"

Thanks for the review on the special features! I like trailers too. ;)

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[identity profile] parron.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
That first trailer makes me so happy. It's like--30 seconds long. XD The text "this is not for playing" appears, and then we hear the FF7 music... I mean, I saw the trailer AFTER seeing the movie, after knowing about Advent Children for months, and I still got that little "omg so cool!" buzz. Can you imagine sitting in a game convention and seeing those 30 seconds!? XD I woulda gone crazy, and FF7 isn't even my favorite thing ever.


Part of the reason the Gippal-Zack thing didn't screw me up as much is that I watched it in Japanese first, probably (it's still the same thing--same guy for both in both languages). I'm not as familiar with the sound, so it wasn't as jarring (just, "this voice is somewhat familiar"). Rick and Josh Gomez have fairly distinct voices in themselves, so it would probably be weirder the first time in English. Of course... there's also the matter of the characters. Zack and Gippal sharing a VA doesn't strike me as so odd (a friend of mine, the biggest Zack fangirl ever, commented that it was even "kinda fitting", which might be high praise)--they're kinda alike. Whereas Nooj and Sephiroth? XD Look, you can say he's a serious guy all you want, there's no way you can convince me Nooj is anything like Sephiroth.

(I guess it's a matter of opinion, like "it fits the character". In the first Kingdom Hearts, the whole Angel-Squall thing didn't bug me at all--well, it made me laugh--but in some cases that sort of thing will annoy the crap outta me.)

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[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
I thought Angel-Squall was *perfect*. I fell over laughing the first time I realized it, but in an "oh my god, of course" sort of way. I don't care who plays him elsewhere, David Boreanz will always be Squall to me.

there's no way you can convince me Nooj is anything like Sephiroth.

I'm not? /sarcasm ;) No, I am mostly with you there. Nooj =/ ultimate evil supervillian. Although I don't think the voice actor was inappropriate for the role in and of himself. I just associate him so strongly with Nooj that I can't think of him as anything else. I had a little bit of the same problems with Rude sounding just like Axel. I guess it's generally a problem, the small pool of VA's for Japanese imports.

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[identity profile] parron.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
XD The Angel-Squall thing WAS the best thing ever. WAY TO PROVE YOU AREN'T A BROODY PRETTY BOY, uh, BOTH OF YOU. XD It was so brilliant it was almost a parody. Whoever said "let's hire Mr. 'I look broody when walking my dog!' to be Squall" deserves a medal. :P I, too, fell over laughing. The fact that a friend of mine kept mentioning Squall prior to that, and the fact that I was in my "Angel" kick at the time? Only helped. :D

...Rude and Axel? Did you mean Reno? *crosses fingers* I really didn't notice that, actually, but thinking back on it I guess I can see the resemblance (in sound). It's true that I associate that VA with Nooj very strongly, however. It's also true that I very much appreciate the Japanese VA, which is undoubtably a biased thing. I think I've mentioned it before, but the small pool is highly amusing. In a painful way. You hear that woman who played Shelinda all the time, too... in Japanese there's a larger pool, but you still get some funny crosses, of course. The Zack-Gippal thing was still true in the Japanese Advent Children, and several of the other VAs I've heard around in my other anime. :P Ahh, voice acting...



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[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Did you mean Reno?

Yes. Oops, duh. The red-headed one. That's Reno, right? Hmm, red hair, quippy, dedicated to his friend, part of an organization that clothes its members in black and has suspcious motivations... nah, he's nothing like Axel. ;)

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[identity profile] parron.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
XD Yup, that was Reno, yo. I was just having scary mental images, yo, of Rude breaking his strong-silent-sunglasses tradition to become an irratating KH2 character, yo.

(...Ignore the yo's. Reno just does that to me. Yo.)

They really are kinda alike, aren't they? Cept Reno's probably more of a jerk. XD and cooler...

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[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Aw, but I like Axel. I think we are doomed to disagree on characters. :D

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[identity profile] parron.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
XD That's true. Everyone you like, I must hate--and vice versus. Such is the law of the universe!

it wasn't so much that I hated Axel--he just seems to me a little overrated. everyone was going, "canon slash!" and "awesomeness!" and i guess i was kinda expecting someone cooler. XD he just bugs me a little, is all...

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[identity profile] rustehroll.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
WAIT WAIT DAVID PLAYS SQUALL?

WTFEVER. YOU GUYS LIE.

...
*has to play now* shit.

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[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Only in KH. Some weird almost-but-not-quite imitator plays him in KH2.

But really the games are awesome and you should play them anyway. ;)

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[identity profile] parron.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
XD I kid you not. It was the BEST THING EVER. I can never look at Squall the same again...

[identity profile] parron.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Come to think of it...

"Wait, what's Gippal doing in the afterlife with Aeris?"

^__~ I wouldn't put it past him, actually. This is Gippal we're talking about. "Hey, look! A spikey guy and a kinda cute dead girl! Mind if I hang out with ya? :DD" *on crack*

[identity profile] rustehroll.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
>> yeah he'd so do that.
regann: (Quistis - Here I stand)

[personal profile] regann 2006-05-31 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
"You love it. I know."


BEST LINE EVER! XD

[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was a great scene. Although it led into yet another "why don't you just *die* already?!?" moment, which this movie had in spades.... ;)