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KJ ([personal profile] owlmoose) wrote2006-11-28 05:25 pm
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If you can't beat 'em...

Some of you may have heard about the Dove Foundation (no relationship to the soap), a "family friendly" entertainment crusading group. Their robot dialers call you and try to entice you into taking a "survey" about the "evils of Hollywood" and so on. Apparently they get around the No Call List by claiming to be a charity, although they don't meet the Better Business Bureau's standards. The Missouri Attorney General is suing the organization, but in the meantime there's no way you can stop them from calling.

On their website, they claim that over 94% of the people who respond to the survey agree with the assertion that the quality of movies and television is dropping. But people report that they also hang up on anyone who starts to disagree with them. Talk about skewing the sample. But two can play that game. There's also a link to the survey on their website.

http://www.dove.org/opinionpoll_takeit.asp

What do you think? Shall we flood them with responses from godless liberals?

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[identity profile] kunstarniki.livejournal.com 2006-11-29 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I took it and inserted the answers I felt they would most not like to see. For example, I complained about violence in entertainment. That was true since I do find violence far more obscene than beautiful nudity or happy sex. LOL When I looked at the answers, I found I am apparently out of step with the vast majority of their others survey takers. Come on, good liberals, show your numbers!
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[personal profile] regann 2006-11-29 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who works where I do, it's really hard for anything to offend me, so every answer I gave was the one they didn't want. We'll see if they ever change their results.

[identity profile] rabbitprint.livejournal.com 2006-11-29 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm curious if they are actually updating those figures, or if it's a dummy poll. I am betting on the latter, after taking a look at their code on the survey_post.asp page.

Here are the figures as of this moment:

94% believe that offensive material in TV, Movies & the Internet is on the rise.

93% want to see more wholesome family entertainment made.

If more was made, 84% said they would make an effort to watch & support it.

77% stated that 75% of today's entertainment does not meet their expectations or reinforce the values important to them.

70% said that the amount of sex, violence and profanity in films bothers them.

76% think that movie ratings have gotten too lenient, and they don’t trust them. (This varies significantly from a survey by the MPAA which shows that 76% of the people they polled find the ratings somewhat to very helpful.)


[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2006-11-29 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting to know that the survey might not actually submit. Given the phone polling practices, I wouldn't be that surprised if the online poll is a fake. They're not interested in attracting real numbers, just in making their position look stronger and more popular than it likely really is.

[identity profile] rabbitprint.livejournal.com 2006-11-29 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm more interested in the other information they have in their poll -- the form has 'form method="POST" action="survey_post.asp"' which seems accurate, but it also submits further down: 'input type="hidden" name="Online" value="Y"' and 'input type="hidden" name="CT" value="1"'. The POST function is accurate enough, but if you look at the code on their 'results' page, it's not dynamically updated, judging from how the style tags are getting wrapped around the text block.

So they're getting results, they just aren't reporting them accurately, and they're bothering to record something else too which is odd.

[identity profile] dagas-isa.livejournal.com 2006-11-29 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
I find the questions extremely biased and leading into the conclusions they want to see, even with my own liberal leanings.

For example using the terms such as 'offensive' or 'wholesome' without bothering to define the terms. I'm sure my definition of offensive and wholesome completely differ from their own. For other questions like the MPAA one, I would have liked to have seen Too Strict as a possible option. As well as a box to fill in extra insights.