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KJ ([personal profile] owlmoose) wrote2009-10-17 11:11 am
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Picking the collective brain

Was chatting with [info - personal] renay about fandom stuff, and we got to wondering something that really requires the collective consciousness of fandom. So, have a poll.

[Poll #1472564]


Please spread this one far and wide; I want as broad a sampling as possible. Also, my standard disclaimer: I welcome open and honest discussion, but I request that you not flame FFX-2 in comments -- flawed or no, I happen to be quite fond of it, so if anyone comes out with the burning hatred, the conversation isn't going to get very far. Thanks.

[identity profile] bottle-of-shine.livejournal.com 2009-10-18 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
I am probably still going to put FFVII under the "Compilation" umbrella title. I think it makes more sense since there are so many canons and people have a terrible habit of tagging with "ffvii" for ALL of them, so maybe having the compilation term will help them...focus?

(I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT TO DO WITH TACTICS, HOSHIT.)
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[personal profile] lassarina 2009-10-18 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
THAT'S OKAY I obsess about Tactics. ♥ Happy to yammer about them.

I think, also, since the FFVII games are all bunched neatly in a small timeline (what, under 20 years?) with the same characters and settings - i.e., there's continuity - that it's fair to have an FF7 Compilation fandom with tags for the individual Complications.

However, just to break out the Ivalice Alliance a little further, you've got:

Vagrant Story which despite taking place in Ivalice has pretty much zero explicit links to the other games (a few name-references pop up in FFXII, like Drace's last name and the Leamonde Entites in the Nabreus Deadlands, but otherwise, totally independent.)

Final Fantasy XII

Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings which is an explicit sequel to FFXII, featuring many of the main cast, and therefore in my head goes in an umbrella with FFXII proper

Final Fantasy Tactics/Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions (same game, latter is a re-release) which takes place in Ivalice about 500 years after FFXII, but does not share any settings with FFXII. Also, the only character it shares with FFXII is Balthier and he's a cameo. (Other cameos include Cloud and Aeris, and I refuse to countenance any argument that says this makes Tactics part of the FF7 Complication, as well as Luso, the hero of FFTA2 (which makes no sense as he should've been dead 500 years by TA2 chronology--but again, cameo.) Many of the Espers that appear in other Ivalice Alliance games make appearances in FFT.

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance has few links to the rest of Ivalice beyond taking place "in Ivalice;" those links consist of the names of Espers (which link up to those in FFT/FFXII) and Montblanc the Moogle (I'm guessing Moogles just live a really long time.)

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2, like TA, has only a few links to the rest of Ivalice. It has cameos from Al-Cid, Vaan, and Penelo (as well as Montblanc), and has a tenuous link to TA (via one character). Other than that...nothin'.