Wow, that's a whole lot of... I don't even know what. I do think that somewhere in there are some legitimate points that if they were stated with less stupid should be paid attention to. But for the most part: wow, what an ass.

I was about to start pulling quotes from it to froth at you about, but I realize that's pretty pointless -- probably we're angry about the same things.

But seriously, one of the most boggling -- not rage-making, but boggling -- parts is how he keeps saying OTW has nothing to show for itself. This is (a) not true, they're building a framework and (b) glaringly obvious and entirely in the natural course of things. They're going about everything carefully, step by step. They don't have much funds or infrastructure yet, but they're trying to build a solid base from which to make everything. I don't understand how he can fault them for this. I'm just! boggled!

Oh, and I have to apologize: I didn't mean to dismiss the issue of the gender conversation -- that's entirely not what I meant to say but I think I came off that way anyway. Uh. Whoops. D= It IS something that should be discussed, but it's also something that shouldn't be some big barrier to discussing all the other conversations OTW brings to the table. Does that make sense?