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KJ ([personal profile] owlmoose) wrote2008-07-27 10:46 pm
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Lazy; gaming report

Weekends have been full of plans lately, so I was very happy to have a couple of days this weekend that were made mostly of slothfulness (except for dinner at R&S's new place last night). Especially today, when the fog came back in and rendered the thought of going outside much less appealing.

So I did a lot of reading -- finished Fingersmith by Sarah Waters, of which more in a separate post -- and gaming. I have two main ones going right now: Mario Kart Wii and of course Final Fantasy IV. Mario Kart is much more fun and compelling than I would have ever expected. I've never been much for driving games, mostly because I suck at them, but this one is fun, and I'm surprisingly not terrible. I've been stuck on one particular series of races for a good week now (Special Cup at 150ccs, if anyone knows what that means), but I finally pulled out a good performance today, and won. So as far as I can tell, that's all the medal events; now I just need to get good enough that I don't get completely wiped out in online play.

Then of course there's FFIV, which is good so far. Great characters, which helps make up for some of the predictability of the plot line (although I can't decide whether the story is actually predictable in and of itself or if I've just heard enough hints dropped by fandom people that I can make better guesses than usual). Also, I learned yesterday that, to my chagrin, I've been pronouncing Rydia's name wrong in my head all this time. I'd assumed that the 'y' was a long "i" sound, but it's not, it's short. Like "Lydia" with an R instead of an L. Which, given Japanese, makes a lot more sense than a name that sounds like the word "rider".

So I knew the whole "Cecil becomes a paladin" thing was coming because it said as much in the game booklet. For some reason, his paladin sprite reminds me of Beatrix from FFIX. Maybe it's the hair. Starting him over at level 1, with no armor to boot, was pretty painful. He died in the first blow of the first monster encounter after his transformation; I had one of my surplus of mages raise him, and then we just ran all the way back to the mage city (it's going to be awhile before I can remember names consistently).

So what is it with this game and mages? Rosa, Rydia, Talleh, Edward, the twins... so far the only really offensive type I've picked up has been Yang. The mages have been effective so far -- the ZOMG THIS GAME IS SO HARD that I'd been led to fear hasn't really materialized, only a couple of random deaths and I had to do the battle where we meet Yang a few times. But of course the problem with using mages in battle is the expense. I haven't found a source of Ethers yet. At least this isn't like FFIII, where I couldn't even find a store that would sell me a Phoenix Down.

However, the big boss battle in the Baron Castle throne room is shaping up to be a doozy. I've died twice and haven't really formulated a strategy for doing better besides running back to town for more Phoenix Downs and leveling up in the process. So we'll see how bad that one is.

Characters... I'm still getting to know them. Cecil is fairly angsty but then again, he has reason to be. The twins are amusing. Jury is out on the women still -- Rosa is spending an awful lot of time as the pawn of the game, but then again she did pick up and follow Cecil under her own initiative and has held her own in battle fairly well; I like that she is an archer as well as a white mage. I need to spend more time with Rydia. I'm a little unconvinced by how quickly she turned around on Cecil after he killed her mother and destroyed her village, but maybe she saw the inner paladin shining through. If she doesn't show up soon with Leviathan under her control, I'll eat my hat.

Hmm, I suppose I need a FFIV icon... any suggestions?

[identity profile] first-seventhe.livejournal.com 2008-07-28 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure we've all inadvertantly spoiled you for more of the game than you'd think, but the story is also pretty predictable. That is, the parts of it that aren't totally ridiculous, i.e. "Your girlfriend caught desert fever and needs this plot device Sand Ruby* right now!!! You must go to the next dungeon and trigger the next boss fight find the Antlion!" (Because, really, why aren't MORE people getting desert fever? Rosa's a white mage, for crying out loud)

Anyway, this is why I like to meta on this game. The original came out somewhere like 1989-1992-ish. So when you look back on it, it looks very tame and predictable and cliche (girls are mages, boys hit things with swords, etc). But for many reasons it looks so cliche because it was the first *real* FF game we saw in the States. The first with characters, anyway. I think that's part of the reason the characters stand out almost more than the story -- compare to FFI, with its "Fighter" and "Black Mage", and I can forgive them a bit for Rosa being a sort of plot device.


*it USED to be a Sand Ruby. They've renamed it in the DS version. However, I can't be too hard on them -- in the initial version of the game, the package Cecil and Kain took to Mist was called the "Bomb Ring"... I always wondered JUST how surprised they were when the Bomb Ring BLEW UP.

[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2008-07-29 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
That is, the parts of it that aren't totally ridiculous

Heh, yeah, that's one of the sillier excuses for a quest I've seen. Then again, I'm not sure it's that much sillier than in other video games I've played... you make a good point about this being one of the first FF games, from which the cliches are derived. Is it still a cliche if it came first? Maybe not.

I always wondered JUST how surprised they were when the Bomb Ring BLEW UP.

Hee! I don't know, Cecil looked pretty surprised. Then again, I'm not convinced Cecil is the sharpest stick in the drawer, either.
lassarina: (Cecil Kain Rosa)

[personal profile] lassarina 2008-07-29 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
The answer to Mages, actually, is having them use their Rods as items. Go into Items menu in battle, hit up on the D-pad, double-tap A to select usign it as an item, and select the enemy you want to hit. Free fire/ice/lightning/mage arrows/whatever spells, ad infinitum; only drawback is single-target.

FF4 icons: [livejournal.com profile] antigonist is where I got most of mine. Hers are beautiful.

What level are you, roughly, for the Baron battle? And is it [spoiler throne room boss] or [spoiler castle hallway boss] who's causing you trouble?

[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2008-07-29 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
It's [spoiler throne room boss]. I beat [spoiler hallway boss] on the first try, although not very efficiently.

Thanks for the rods-as-items hint; I'll have to try that out! So using the rod that way doesn't consume it?

So for ages now, I've looked at that icon you're using up there and wondered who the lovely white-haired lady is. And now I realize... it's Cecil. Final Fantasy bishonen ftw!
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[personal profile] lassarina 2008-07-29 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
No, it doesn't consume it. (It will in FF6, but not FF4.)

Yes, Cecil is in fact a very pretty lady XD

[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2008-07-29 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I forgot to answer your level question... everyone but Cecil is in the mid-20s, I think, and last I remember Cecil had just hit level 21.
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[personal profile] lassarina 2008-07-29 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, then you're in a pretty good place level-wise.

The big key to that boss is have Porom cast Slow very first thing. Tellah and Palom should be casting Blizzard spells (highest level you've got), and Thunder if the boss calls the water around him, which will dissipate it. I got lucky and took him out without him really doing much of anything to me in those same levels.

The next dungeon after this, you'll probably want to power up to mid-high 20s or around 30; the one after, I was wrecked until the high 30's, just for reference's sake.

[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2008-07-29 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Ah ha! I figured there had to be a reason that we got a warning on that attack. I will try it. Thanks for the tips. :)
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[personal profile] lassarina 2008-07-29 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I am a walking FF4 encyclopedia (I can tell you names/weaknesses of really random creatures on the moon, and tips for any given boss fight off the top of my head! I am made of lame!) so if ever you need anything, feel free to ping me on GoogleTalk if I'm not answering comments on LJ :)

[identity profile] owlmoose.livejournal.com 2008-07-30 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the tip, I beat him on my next try! :) Now on to the next thing...