Auron looked up slyly, "I ain't queer." He mumbled. Nooj gazed out over the snowy peaks, "Me, neither."
*falls over laughing hysterically* "Gagazet Mountain"?
I know I have said several times that Nooj is not particular about how he gets his ashes hauled but Auron!?
You do realize that Auron is quite possibly the most slashed character in the FFX fandom, despite his butchness? Auron/Jecht, mostly, although I have also seen him paired with Braska and with Tidus (yes, really). Crazy stuff (well, I can sort of see where they get Auron/Jecht).
I am sadly ignorant of the mechanics involved
Ah, that's what "fade to black" is for. :) Or research. That would make for some interesting research. ;)
Ah, that's what "fade to black" is for. :) Or research. That would make for some interesting research.
Or a single rose shedding its petals or a rushing waterfall or a sunrise or this limerick from Isaac Asimov:
A handsome young gay from Khartoum Asked a lesbian up to his room, Where they argued all night Over who had the right To do what and with which and to whom.
Does that count as research?
I did not know Auron had been slashed! I am such an innocent. Yes, I suppose I can see the Jecht possibility although I do not believe it. RyRy claims to see a love interest between Aquelev and Nooj in my latest. I have let it stand because it adds texture to the story and supplies a sort of motivation for later events. Let it be noted, however, I think they are just friends. Nooj is not at all desperate at this time. Heh!
Auron/Tidus sounds like Priest/Altar Boy and is vaguely offensive. With Auron such a revered and legendary figure, the writer has to find some way to de-mystify him before pairing him with one of the next generation. Unless one is writing for the MBL Movement. Do they have a publication?
As to the SF pairings. To the best of my memory, at least some were posted on FFN. Ry might have a list somewhere in her files.
Keep thinking; this is beginning to merge on the possible. LOL
Yes, I suppose I can see the Jecht possibility although I do not believe it.
It is clear that there is strong feeling among the trio of Auron, Braska, and Jecht, so I understand why people write various combinations of them as lovers. It doesn't offend me particularly, although it's not the interpretation I take. Actually I made a conscious choice to keep romantic subtext out of Auron's friendships with Braska and Jecht in AGL. I'm sure a dedicated slasher could still read something there, though, between the lines.
I agree with you that Auron/Tidus is creepy at the very least. And not just because of the age difference -- there's too much of a father/son dynamic (or uncle/nephew might be more accurate) for me to be comfortable viewing them as lovers. I'm pretty tolerant of a lot of things, but I draw the line at incest.
Unless one is writing for the MBL Movement. Do they have a publication?
*snort* *giggle* Fanficcers for NAMBLA! :)
RyRy claims to see a love interest between Aquelev and Nooj in my latest.
Huh. I don't see that, particularly, but I don't *not* see it either (if you take my meaning.) Interesting interpretation.
this is beginning to merge on the possible.</q
Hmm, I am not sure I *want* to see this as particularly possible. (The slash aspect of it, anyway.) ;)
Maybe we could be named as their official scribes and have our efforts promoted by their representatives and organization. It would be one way to achieve our fifteen minutes of fame. LOL
but I draw the line at incest.
I have a problem with most situations in which a more powerful individual takes sexual advantage of an underling, unless it is designed to shed the appropriate light on the relationship and the characters of those thus involved. Even incest could pass the test if it were for a proper reason. For instance, maybe Rikku is an idiot because she is concealing the fact Cid raped her when she was five years old.
I think Nooj would become involved in a same sex relationship if he thought it would be the honourable thing to do. Auron is just about the only one I can think on in the canon who could command his respect to this degree. We must remember Nooj had no close male model after he was orphaned at about six years old and may be somewhat confused about the correct choices. He knew more strong women than admirable men in his very young days. That can make a difference, I think.
Now you have me trying to lay the groundwork for an in-depth story about the two. Hmmmm...
I have a problem with most situations in which a more powerful individual takes sexual advantage of an underling
Yes. Totally agree. So much bad romantic fiction (fanfic and otherwise) just throws people in bed without really thinking about the implications or consequences of power dynamics etc.
Now you have me trying to lay the groundwork for an in-depth story about the two. Hmmmm...
Well, that was the idea, yes? :) I am still not convinced that we could realistically make it into a romance, though.
I am still not convinced that we could realistically make it into a romance, though.
Do you want to start aiming at that AU after Vegnagun adventure with Nooj and Paine instead? We really should reconcile them - yes, I know you did it in an Epilogue - but they still have a lot of baggage to sort out. And we have time to turn over a lot of rocks before either of us is done with our current commitment. I am enjoying the contact with your thoughts again. ;-)
Hmm, a post-Vegnagun adventure would mean bringing Auron back from Farplane. Which can be done, of course, and we wouldn't even need to make it AU since that's after canon is finished. So that's a possibility. I had been thinking more about going completely AU and having them meet up at Operation Mi'ihen. Either before the cave, or perhaps the Crimson crew could run into Yuna's party as they are escaping the cave. Of course, the latter situation has the added complication that Nooj is possessed by Shuyin at the time -- I don't know whether that's a challenge you'd want to tackle in this context. If we set it *before* the cave and take it AU at that point, no reconciliation would be necessary, since Nooj doesn't get possessed by Shuyin and so never shoots Paine and the others. All kinds of directions this could go here....
And we have time to turn over a lot of rocks before either of us is done with our current commitment.
True, although I was seized by the muse last night and stayed up until 2 AM writing, and I got all of the next chapter and a chunk of the following one drafted. And the shape of the story is now clear: that will be it. These two chapters are all that remain. So depending on how the editing goes I could be very close to finished with this. Wow!
Wow indeed. I still have a bit to go. If you are moved to do so, you might rough out some plot possibilities. Since I drove the plot in Confessional, I am inclined to cede the honour and the work to you this time. We have proved we can tolerate one another in the area of adapting so there should be no friction. And, please, no Shuyin possession, not right now. Another thought, the two might meet on the Farplane; no one has any idea what goes on there. It may be a sort of Valhalla for Warriors. I played with that in "After" and had much fun. So many ideas ... Aren't we so very lucky? ;)
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*falls over laughing hysterically* "Gagazet Mountain"?
You do realize that Auron is quite possibly the most slashed character in the FFX fandom, despite his butchness? Auron/Jecht, mostly, although I have also seen him paired with Braska and with Tidus (yes, really). Crazy stuff (well, I can sort of see where they get Auron/Jecht).
Ah, that's what "fade to black" is for. :) Or research. That would make for some interesting research. ;)
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Or a single rose shedding its petals or a rushing waterfall or a sunrise or this limerick from Isaac Asimov:
A handsome young gay from Khartoum
Asked a lesbian up to his room,
Where they argued all night
Over who had the right
To do what and with which and to whom.
Does that count as research?
I did not know Auron had been slashed! I am such an innocent. Yes, I suppose I can see the Jecht possibility although I do not believe it. RyRy claims to see a love interest between Aquelev and Nooj in my latest. I have let it stand because it adds texture to the story and supplies a sort of motivation for later events. Let it be noted, however, I think they are just friends. Nooj is not at all desperate at this time. Heh!
Auron/Tidus sounds like Priest/Altar Boy and is vaguely offensive. With Auron such a revered and legendary figure, the writer has to find some way to de-mystify him before pairing him with one of the next generation. Unless one is writing for the MBL Movement. Do they have a publication?
As to the SF pairings. To the best of my memory, at least some were posted on FFN. Ry might have a list somewhere in her files.
Keep thinking; this is beginning to merge on the possible. LOL
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It is clear that there is strong feeling among the trio of Auron, Braska, and Jecht, so I understand why people write various combinations of them as lovers. It doesn't offend me particularly, although it's not the interpretation I take. Actually I made a conscious choice to keep romantic subtext out of Auron's friendships with Braska and Jecht in AGL. I'm sure a dedicated slasher could still read something there, though, between the lines.
I agree with you that Auron/Tidus is creepy at the very least. And not just because of the age difference -- there's too much of a father/son dynamic (or uncle/nephew might be more accurate) for me to be comfortable viewing them as lovers. I'm pretty tolerant of a lot of things, but I draw the line at incest.
*snort* *giggle* Fanficcers for NAMBLA! :)
Huh. I don't see that, particularly, but I don't *not* see it either (if you take my meaning.) Interesting interpretation.
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Maybe we could be named as their official scribes and have our efforts promoted by their representatives and organization. It would be one way to achieve our fifteen minutes of fame. LOL
I have a problem with most situations in which a more powerful individual takes sexual advantage of an underling, unless it is designed to shed the appropriate light on the relationship and the characters of those thus involved. Even incest could pass the test if it were for a proper reason. For instance, maybe Rikku is an idiot because she is concealing the fact Cid raped her when she was five years old.
I think Nooj would become involved in a same sex relationship if he thought it would be the honourable thing to do. Auron is just about the only one I can think on in the canon who could command his respect to this degree. We must remember Nooj had no close male model after he was orphaned at about six years old and may be somewhat confused about the correct choices. He knew more strong women than admirable men in his very young days. That can make a difference, I think.
Now you have me trying to lay the groundwork for an in-depth story about the two. Hmmmm...
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Yes. Totally agree. So much bad romantic fiction (fanfic and otherwise) just throws people in bed without really thinking about the implications or consequences of power dynamics etc.
Well, that was the idea, yes? :) I am still not convinced that we could realistically make it into a romance, though.
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Do you want to start aiming at that AU after Vegnagun adventure with Nooj and Paine instead? We really should reconcile them - yes, I know you did it in an Epilogue - but they still have a lot of baggage to sort out. And we have time to turn over a lot of rocks before either of us is done with our current commitment. I am enjoying the contact with your thoughts again. ;-)
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True, although I was seized by the muse last night and stayed up until 2 AM writing, and I got all of the next chapter and a chunk of the following one drafted. And the shape of the story is now clear: that will be it. These two chapters are all that remain. So depending on how the editing goes I could be very close to finished with this. Wow!
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